Would Jiminy Cricket be a daemon?
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Would Jiminy Cricket be a daemon?
I wonder....
Could Jiminy Cricket be Pinocchio's daemon? Even tho he was a cricket before he became Pinocchio's conscience, and afterwards, would that make him Pinocchio's daemon?
What do you guys think?
Could Jiminy Cricket be Pinocchio's daemon? Even tho he was a cricket before he became Pinocchio's conscience, and afterwards, would that make him Pinocchio's daemon?
What do you guys think?
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Re: Would Jiminy Cricket be a dæmon?
nah, i thought he quite clearly said he was his consience (hope thats how to spell it) and like you said he was there before and afterwards.
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Re: Would Jiminy Cricket be a dæmon?
But isn't your consiouse like your soul and your soul is your dæmon so that would make him a daemon.
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Re: Would Jiminy Cricket be a dæmon?
That is what I was thinkin as well. While he is hardly a spirit animal, he and Pinochio still chat about what Pinochio shudd do, and tell him he shudd and shuddn't do.
I just found it to be the only correlation I could find to the daemon thing in other literature.
I just found it to be the only correlation I could find to the daemon thing in other literature.
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He is cricket, altough I'm not sure what they are meant to represent in HDM terms.While he is hardly a spirit animal,
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Re: Would Jiminy Cricket be a dæmon?
I am pretty certain that a cricket daemon is mentioned in NL. But i don't think that Jiminy is one.He is cricket, altough I'm not sure what they are meant to represent in HDM terms.While he is hardly a spirit animal,
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Re: Would Jiminy Cricket be a dæmon?
Well, perhaps it would be an example of the idea or myth of a daemon in our own culture (that doesn't have them) perhaps?
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yay I was just thinking about that today. It would represent a dæmon in our society or we could think so. I allready had my friend read Uglies series and Twilight do you think i should make her read HDM? do you think she could read TSK without reading TGC?
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Re: Would Jiminy Cricket be a dæmon?
My thinking too. Sign of daemons in 'our world's' stories. I haven't thought of another yet.
Hmmm. I would say to at LEAST watch the movie, then read the Subtle Knife, tho I did that and it was a little confusing. Best thing is to read first to last, I would say. You can't make her read them, of course. But I would highly, HIGHLY recommend she do.
I haven't been bitten by the Twilight bug yet, but what are 'the Uglies'? Sound interesting.
Hmmm. I would say to at LEAST watch the movie, then read the Subtle Knife, tho I did that and it was a little confusing. Best thing is to read first to last, I would say. You can't make her read them, of course. But I would highly, HIGHLY recommend she do.
I haven't been bitten by the Twilight bug yet, but what are 'the Uglies'? Sound interesting.
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Re: Would Jiminy Cricket be a dæmon?
Other examples I've always thought of as analogious to daemons are:
- Kitty Pryde's dragon Lockheed (Shadowcat from the X-men)
- The animal forms of patronis (is that the plural!?) in the Harry Potter books seem to reflect the personalities of their owners and work as protectors, guardian angels
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Re: Would Jiminy Cricket be a dæmon?
I think many of the Disney Sidekicks© have daemon-like qualities, and Disney is just working on a ancient tradition of the animal companion. I'm sure the 'companion', as an archetype, which is already getting towards the idea of a daemon, is one of the oldest archetypes in literature. And it's only a small extension from that to a talking animal companion, and then a talking animal who is the soul of its human. I can think of Donkey and Mushu also being quite daemonic.
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Re: Would Jiminy Cricket be a dæmon?
I think you maybe onto something there, Mushu could be an example of a daemon (or as close as you can come in our world) for us as well. Disney is responsible for all the pets I have ever had, and ever will, dangit! (which right now is two cats, two doves, a meat eating frog, and three horses.)
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a meat eating frog
Wait, don't fly's count as meat?
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Heh heh, yeah, but he is WAYYYYY past those. He eats the largest crickets they got right now, I am soon gonna hafta go to pinkie mice.
He is an Argentine Pac Man frog, supposedly gets about as big as a dinner plate and eats mice, he has jagged little teeth, also supposed to have a full set by adulthood....
I can't seem to take a good pic of him (or her) but he is ubber cool......
He is an Argentine Pac Man frog, supposedly gets about as big as a dinner plate and eats mice, he has jagged little teeth, also supposed to have a full set by adulthood....
I can't seem to take a good pic of him (or her) but he is ubber cool......
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What is Mushu?. I can think of Donkey and Mushu also being quite daemonic.
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The dragon that was one of the 'family protectors' that helped Mulan, in the Disney movie. Small, voice of Eddie Murphy.....
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Re: Would Jiminy Cricket be a dæmon?
aren't patronises (from Harry Potter) the opposite of daemons?
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Re: Would Jiminy Cricket be a dæmon?
I don't think so, because they are based on what you are like, like daemons, i may be wrong as i haven't read HP for some time now.aren't patronises (from Harry Potter) the opposite of dæmons?
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I would say that they are similar to daemons in that they are an animal representation of that person, the animal spirit, an 'olde' idea , but I would say that as far as being the conscience, and speaking and interacting with the person, they (the patronises) don't do that.
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