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Was the Knife that strong?

Postby Frontline Soldier » Mon Aug 04, 2003 4:57 pm

I think that the subtle kinfe rilly is not that great. I mean.. look, its a melee weapon. Short ranged. A sniper on a tower could maul the bearer at distance. Neva know what hit 'em...
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Postby eloquent » Mon Aug 04, 2003 7:10 pm

It wasn't intended as a weapon of attack, more as a tool of power, hence the subtlety.
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Postby viper » Mon Aug 04, 2003 7:17 pm

Yeah did you miss that part or something :?:

it had a purpose and it completed it anyway you can argu about what weapons are the best for ever coz each is better for a certain thing
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Postby Frontline Soldier » Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:39 pm

:oops: :!:
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Postby Frontline Soldier » Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:40 pm

Sorry.
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Postby viper » Tue Aug 05, 2003 5:24 pm

Pology excepted :D
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Postby jessia » Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:05 pm

it's not so much that it was strong that it was sharp... so sharp that the human eye could not see its finest edge.
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Postby BenRoshi » Sat Aug 09, 2003 4:32 pm

it was a dooms day weapon, if the user got killed someone else would just do its bidding :D
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Postby Carina » Tue Aug 12, 2003 6:18 am

but even more importantly, before it was a weapon, it was firstly a tool for cutting into other worlds
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Postby jessia » Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:46 pm

but the knife's got its own intentions remember, god-destroyer... a destroyer would thus be a weapon. and the whole while, it being a tool to cut between world, the knife would eventually lead them to the battle where they released the authority from the crystally thing, where he disintegrated (died).
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Postby Will » Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:46 pm

So...if there were two knifes, do you reckon one could cut through the other?
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Postby Carina » Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:08 pm

I'd say the intentions of the user would determine that if the intentions of both knives were the same.
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Postby jessia » Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:35 pm

Blighty wrote:So...if there were two knifes, do you reckon one could cut through the other?

it's supposed to be able to cut through anything, but the cutting knife would have to cut the cutted knife on the side that didn't... wait, both sides cut like mad, just one side cuts into worlds... plus the cut's really clean... that means, if you cut one of the knives down the middle, you could have three knives!
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Postby Peter » Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:18 pm

jessia wrote:
Blighty wrote:So...if there were two knifes, do you reckon one could cut through the other?

it's supposed to be able to cut through anything, but the cutting knife would have to cut the cutted knife on the side that didn't... wait, both sides cut like mad, just one side cuts into worlds... plus the cut's really clean... that means, if you cut one of the knives down the middle, you could have three knives!


OK, here's a little thought-experiment.

What happens if you (or Will Parry) walk up to a high vertical wall (let's say it's made of the finest, densest marble and it's 100 metres high) and attempts to stick the Knife into it so that, say, he can use it to climb the wall. Is that possible?
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Postby TonyOn » Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:36 pm

Ugh... The knife would cut a scar in the wall with the cutting side, and if you turn the knife 180° and use the other side, it would just cut you into another world. Or does the knife cut you into another world if you´re not trying?
Plus you'd almost need two kinfes to be able to actually climb... The best way would probably be to just cut holes into the wall and climb up using them...
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Postby Peter » Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:33 pm

TonyOn wrote:Ugh... The knife would cut a scar in the wall with the cutting side, and if you turn the knife 180° and use the other side, it would just cut you into another world. Or does the knife cut you into another world if you´re not trying?
Plus you'd almost need two kinfes to be able to actually climb... The best way would probably be to just cut holes into the wall and climb up using them...


Where does the material go that the Knife displaces?
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Postby TonyOn » Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:34 pm

I think it's just pushed a bit denser into the marble on both sides of the scar...
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Postby Shivy » Sat Aug 30, 2003 4:03 pm

TonyOn wrote:if you turn the knife 180° and use the other side, it would just cut you into another world. Or does the knife cut you into another world if you´re not trying?


No, you have to 'feel' the way along the knife to find the point where you can cut through to the other world.. remember how much trouble Will had trying to do it at first?



Ceres wrote:Where does the material go that the Knife displaces?


I just assumed it worked the same way a normal knife did in that way..

But I don't think it wouldbe muh good for climbing with, i'm not sure if the knife would be physically stong enough not to bend with the weight of someone on it (even if you did have 2 so it would work properly)
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Postby Will » Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:41 pm

That's true. How is the hilt connected to the blade?
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Postby jessia » Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:49 pm

well the end of the knife doesn't necessarily have to be sharp. the subtle knife can't cut you from the flat side.
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