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The Cat and Will + daemon idea

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Postby Starshade » Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:47 pm

The daemon issue is quite strange it could have been Will's daemon in the first instance in the effect of it leading him home and then he came to his senses and realised that there was something strange in between the hornbeam trees. Just me...?
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Postby Bantanix » Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:06 pm

another thing. once youre able to see your daemon, everyone else can too?thats the impression i got from Dr. Malone and Jopari (cept Jopari's an exceptionsince hes got all these mad shaman powers) And you can learn to see other peoples daemons but they cant see them? when you think about it thats really deep considering that daemons are part of your soul
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Postby AySz88 » Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:16 pm

No, only dæmons from Lyra's world can be seen by everyone after they become visible. Pan would be visible to everyone, but Kirjava wouldn't be automatically visible to anyone, except Will and people from Lyra's world.
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Postby Starshade » Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:35 pm

No I believe that Kirjava was able to be seen by anyone, but Mary Malone's Alpine Chough was only able to be seen by those who know how to look for hidden daemons
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Postby Stardust » Fri Jul 18, 2003 9:29 pm

Yeah, I agree.

Will always had a daemon like everyone else, it was just invisible. Abandoning Kirjava in the world of the dead just brought her out of him, making her visible. Mary's isn't visible because she didn't go through the world of the dead like Will did.
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Postby Bantan IX » Sat Jul 19, 2003 12:34 am

its too bad the gallivespians never got their daemons back, itd be interesting to see wat a gallivespian daemon looks like
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Postby eloquent » Sat Jul 19, 2003 1:11 am

The same but smaller I guess...
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Postby LifeDaemon » Sat Jul 19, 2003 1:36 am

lol... it would be pretty funny to see a tiny version of a daemon.... minature animals...
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Postby Stardust » Sat Jul 19, 2003 3:27 am

Hey I never thought of that...Gallavespian dæmons...hmmm, that'd be neat!
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Postby Bantan IX » Sat Jul 19, 2003 3:14 pm

Whoa cool! Stardust, howd you do the ae?
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Postby Stardust » Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:02 pm

lol, I just pressed ALT and held it down while I pressed 1 4 5 on the keypad, then I took my finger off the ALT! Isn't it cool? :D
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Postby Qwazzerman » Sat Aug 02, 2003 5:17 am

Something else that works is the ALT thing, but type 0230. Anyway, at the end of TAS, Serefina Pekkla says specifically "They won't see yours or Will's, though, unless you teach them as I've taught you." I'd really like to know how to achieve that special state of mind. As I understand it, if you practice and do it right, aside from seeing your dæmon, you could eventually travel between the multiple worlds, like the angels do. Xaphania said something along those lines.
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Postby eloquent » Sat Aug 02, 2003 6:03 am

Yeah, your conciousness at least could go anywhere with the Dust, like Mary started doing (except at that point the Dust was flowing into the abyss, so not good...).
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Postby viper » Sat Aug 02, 2003 8:58 pm

Yeah that would be good :D
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Postby conna » Sun Feb 15, 2004 7:37 am

I don't think the cat was his dæmon that led him to the portal because lyra could see this cat wear she didn't seem to reconise his demon when she could see it. And also when that cat was being heart bye the children in the offer world he couldn't feel it's pain wear when pan got heart lyra could feel his pain. And the description sounded different as well.

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Postby Angel to follow » Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:22 pm

Could you rephase that, I'm finding it hard to understand you.
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