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Postby antiaktiv » Tue May 25, 2004 4:17 pm

so if PP had kept the original title "the golden compass says", would the others be called "the subtle knife cuts" and "the amber spyglass sees"?

man that's a corny title.
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Re: original title

Postby Enitharmon » Tue May 25, 2004 4:18 pm

so if PP had kept the original title "the golden compass says", would the others be called "the subtle knife cuts" and "the amber spyglass sees"?

man that's a corny title.
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Re: original title

Postby sam » Tue May 25, 2004 4:19 pm

so if PP had kept the original title "the golden compass says", would the others be called "the subtle knife cuts" and "the amber spyglass sees"?
Whats it for, as far as I know the original title is Northan Lights.
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Postby Crazy Bear Mc.Gubbins » Wed May 26, 2004 8:36 am

Northan Lights? Northan Lights??? You wouldn't happen to have the Yorkshire edition by any chance would you, sam?
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Postby Max » Wed May 26, 2004 8:41 am

Northan Lights? Northan Lights??? You wouldn't happen to have the Yorkshire edition by any chance would you, sam?
Hahahaa :lol: The Sraffies have a fine sense of humour today.

To clear it up for Sam, the first book was initially published in the US under the title The Golden Compass, but for one reason and another it got published under the title Northern Lights in the UK. This is all in the FAQ section of http://www.bridgetothestars.net
Of course, the title TGC fits better with the other two titles, but if we consider the first book independant of the trilogy, I prefer Northern Lights as a title - it allegorically represents a stronger theme in the book.
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Postby Qu Klaani » Wed May 26, 2004 8:45 am

This is all in the FAQ section of http://www.bridgetothestars.net
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Postby Melancholy Man » Wed May 26, 2004 8:46 am

I prefer Northern Lights as a title - it allegorically represents a stronger theme in the book.
And it fits well with Renaissance and Jethro Tull songs.
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Postby Enitharmon » Wed May 26, 2004 10:03 am

And it fits well with Renaissance and Jethro Tull songs.
And it's the proper British title for a book by a British writer with a peculiarly British flavour before uncouth Americans got hold of it!

My understanding was that PP used The Golden Compass Says as a working title but the British publishers changed it to the snappier and more ethereal Northern Lights.

The Golden Compass has the whiff of marketing people about it, which puts me off. It also sounds childrens-bookish to me. I don't think the alethiometer is as central to the story as all that - it's just a gizmo after all - and it isn't a compass. I suppose the marketing people wanted to appeal to readers who get off on gizmos, which I'm afraid I don't.
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Postby Max » Wed May 26, 2004 3:08 pm

who get off on gizmos, which I'm afraid I don't.
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Postby Trillian » Wed May 26, 2004 3:36 pm

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Postby Cookiemonster » Wed May 26, 2004 4:30 pm

Not that thats a good thing.......! :shifty: :shock:
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Postby Tomsy » Wed May 26, 2004 6:15 pm

<dons stupic n00b hat>
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Postby sam » Wed May 26, 2004 6:37 pm

And it's the proper British title for a book by a British writer with a peculiarly British flavour before uncouth Americans got hold of it!
And thats what I meant, stupid americans, I know that TGC fits in with the other book titles but its a british book and writer so NL should be the used title for it.
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Postby Melancholy Man » Wed May 26, 2004 8:39 pm

Merkin basher wrote:
And it's the proper British title for a book by a British writer with a peculiarly British flavour before uncouth Americans got hold of it!
There, there, love... have a cup of tea and go back to distant waters where northern lights explode.
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Postby Jameson » Wed May 26, 2004 9:05 pm

This is all in the FAQ section of http://www.bridgetothestars.net
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Postby Cookiemonster » Thu May 27, 2004 9:34 am

<dons stupid n00b hat>
Um, bing?
Said when a comment could be taken as meaning something else, usually in a dirty-minded sense!

*Removes stupid n00b hat from abc's head* Don't be daft, you're not stupid! Not that much of a n00b either, you have way more posts than me!
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Postby eloquent » Thu May 27, 2004 3:39 pm

And it has to be said that the instance of Bing in that particular usage all started on the school ski trip of earlier this year (pictures of which can be seen here), and subsequently spread round the world as a result of a related journal entry. You'll be pleased to hear that 'Bing' is freeware to all sraffies.
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Postby Kevin » Sun May 30, 2004 12:23 pm

When I was young, I found that the big toe always ends up making a hole in a sock. So I stopped wearing socks.
yeah, but why not swop around your holed socks? that way the holes are over the small toes, the socks last a bit longer, you aren't a peasant, & everyone is happy. (patent pending).

come on, there's many a topic about this title business already ain't there.
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Postby Ratter22 » Mon May 31, 2004 8:30 pm

"The Golden Compass says"!? Thank goodness most of the original titels don't make it. I keep thinking of Simon says.... :twisted: I prefer the title Northern Lights over The Golden Compass, because they never really say that it's a Golden Compass. But Northern Lights doesn't really match with The Subtle Knife and Amber Spyglass because it's not an object...
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Postby Kyrillion » Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:31 pm

What's this obsession with matching anyway? Northern Lights is clearly a far superior title to The Golden Bloody Compass.

I couldn't care less what they call the film in America, so long as its Northern Lights here. The sorceror/philosopher name change for HP gives me hope.

If they call it TGC here... there will be bloodshed.
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