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Does Lyra's world exist?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:31 pm
by Tiael
What do you think?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:39 pm
by Jamie
wow... that is all I can say

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:50 pm
by Max
You know why I voted yes? Because reality only makes sense if every possible version of it exists somewhere. Everything wouldn't be everything unless it comprised everything, see?

So Lyra's world must exist somewhere, somehow.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:54 pm
by Ian
I think that a perhaps vote is the safest bet. I am no physicist, so I can't say anything for definite...but I wouldn't rule out multiple universes, after all, we have only accounted for 4% of our own universe so far.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:58 pm
by Townie
I concur with Max.

Of course Lyra's world exists...and so do daemons and armoured bears :x :x :x

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:00 pm
by Tomsy
Dæmon wrote:I think that a perhaps vote is the safest bet. I am no physicist, so I can't say anything for definite...but I wouldn't rule out multiple universes, after all, we have only accounted for 4% of our own universe so far.

That much?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:05 pm
by Darragh
abc wrote:
Dæmon wrote:I think that a perhaps vote is the safest bet. I am no physicist, so I can't say anything for definite...but I wouldn't rule out multiple universes, after all, we have only accounted for 4% of our own universe so far.

That much?


If that's true I will be pretty god-damn impressed. Go humans!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:07 pm
by Max
Darragh wrote:
abc wrote:
Dæmon wrote:I think that a perhaps vote is the safest bet. I am no physicist, so I can't say anything for definite...but I wouldn't rule out multiple universes, after all, we have only accounted for 4% of our own universe so far.

That much?


If that's true I will be pretty god-damn impressed. Go humans!

Depends what he means by it - due to the speed of light we can only actually *see* fourteen billion light years in any direction at best. If a twenty-fifth of our universe is twenty-eight billion light years in diameter then 4% is right in a way, but no achievement on our part. Or he might be talking about matter/dark matter.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:07 pm
by Dante
There can't be a fixed amount anyway, can there? Since the universe is constantly expanding.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:17 pm
by Darragh
Max wrote:
Darragh wrote:
abc wrote:
Dæmon wrote:I think that a perhaps vote is the safest bet. I am no physicist, so I can't say anything for definite...but I wouldn't rule out multiple universes, after all, we have only accounted for 4% of our own universe so far.

That much?


If that's true I will be pretty god-damn impressed. Go humans!

Depends what he means by it - due to the speed of light we can only actually *see* fourteen billion light years in any direction at best. If a twenty-fifth of our universe is twenty-eight billion light years in diameter then 4% is right in a way, but no achievement on our part. Or he might be talking about matter/dark matter.


*Goes cross eyed*

I think I understand. It is kind of an achievement on our part.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:20 pm
by Townie
You're making my head bleed, peeps...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:40 pm
by jessia
poll option no. 4 spelling fixed./mod

sorry, it was bugging me.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 12:29 pm
by Ian
As I said, I'm no physicist. I base my statement of 4% on reading about dark matter in the Guardian, and on what an astronomer said when I attended a lecture at the Royal Institute.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:48 pm
by eniamrahc
jess wrote:poll option no. 4 spelling fixed./mod

sorry, it was bugging me.


:P You want to correct the poll question too, and add in apostrophes where applicable?

I voted, perhaps, because it's the loveliest answer for anything.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:33 pm
by jessia
apostrophied/mod

there you are. i shouldn't make a habit of this.

i also voted perhaps for similar reasons. that, and, you know, perhaps.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:28 pm
by krebbe
Where's the option for it being in a supposition of states where it simultaneously exists and doesn't exist until we observe it?

Or the option that it does exist, but only in the form of a watermelon: this really hasn't been thought through... :roll:

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:07 pm
by Tomsy
Poll question spelling fixed.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:09 pm
by gullifer
krebbe wrote:Where's the option for it being in a supposition of states where it simultaneously exists and doesn't exist until we observe it?

Or the option that it does exist, but only in the form of a watermelon: this really hasn't been thought through... :roll:


Schrodinger's Cat?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:13 pm
by Max
gullifer wrote:
krebbe wrote:Where's the option for it being in a supposition of states where it simultaneously exists and doesn't exist until we observe it?

Or the option that it does exist, but only in the form of a watermelon: this really hasn't been thought through... :roll:


Schrodinger's Cat?

Would like to take its quantum chances and be let out of that god damned benighted box.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:15 pm
by Ian
krebbe wrote:Where's the option for it being in a supposition of states where it simultaneously exists and doesn't exist until we observe it?


Good point. A important thing to take into consideration (if the multiple worlds theory is true) is that we may be in a world where Lyra's world exists, and we may be in a world where it doesn't. Does that make sense?
*creases forehead in exasparation at being an idiot*