[pvflaggirl]

Woo, old thread!

[Angel to follow]

i can understand when i first finished it i went beserk. I emailed the publishers , wrote to pp begging for a sequel but i suppose i had to deal untill i read it next time.ahhhhhhh!
No it did actually upset me for days i just kept thinking if love can't succeed in a book where can it?

[Enitharmon]

i just kept thinking if love can't succeed in a book where can it?

Love succeeded in saving the universe - what more could you ask of it?

[Angel to follow]

Yeh but they couldn't stay together, they didn't even get that long once they fell in love. I begun thinking it wasn't will and lyra falling in love that stopped the dust but lyra alone. As will fell in love with lyra ages before we're just not told.

[pvflaggirl]

Actually, it was their realization of their love that stopped the dust, not their actually being in love.

[Angel to follow]

That would make sense because being in love and knowing that your in love are very different things.

[Maxwell's Daemon]

People have commented that the description of the death of The Authority is very rushed. I too was expecting this to have a greater significance, but his demise is simply triggered by the attack of a peckish cliff ghast, without any moral content. But I think that the fact that the episode is almost thrown away is deliberate, showing the irrelevance of the aged God.

I was reminded of Breugel's painting of the Fall of Icarus: http://www.artchive.com/artchive/B/brue ... s.jpg.html ,where Icarus can hardly be seen, being dwarfed by life going on in the bigger landscape, thereby expressing how trivial his vanity is.

[Zaphod]

I'd agree with that. The way The Authority dies is very underplayed, and when the crystal litter is opened the The Authority is so weak, that just a breath of wind is all that is needed to finish him. The sutble knife is needed to open the litter and not kill The Authority.

I think The Authority in the books is not 'God the creator' but the God of the organised Churches. Which is weak and subserviant of the power of The Church, which I think may be replisented by Metatron, as he has all the power and runs everything.

[Tomsy]

I does actually say that God was just the first angel and that hee told all the other angels that he created the world.

[Angel to follow]

Maybe pp was the making the point that 'god' doesn't deserve a large part as he is insignificant to the story? Think about if a great monarch dies they have a huge funeral if a some like myra hindley dies no cares. (That maybe be spelt wrong and not have capital letter but frankly I don't think she deserves great recognition)