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The loopholes thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 2:58 am
by Pyr
now that ive reread TAS i like it best the way it is, but wouldnt it have been possible for the angel person.. whats her face..xaph sumthing.. to tell Will and Lyra where the natural non-dust releasing windows were, instead of closing them, so that Will and Lyra could be together and countless children would not throw the books at the wall with tear filled eyes and cry, "why?" to the heavens. ya.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 4:25 am
by AySz88
There are actually LOTS of loopholes.

But by now I've forgotten most of them. :cry:

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 7:49 pm
by Will
It was only Will's theory that these long open windows weren't lettting Dust out, Xaphania certainly didn't seem to be convinced. Oh, and Soup, name one.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 8:36 pm
by Gabe
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 8:51 pm
by Will
Enlighten us o wise one. But not if it's more than 200 words, please!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 9:00 pm
by AySz88
Of course, have both of them staying in the world of the mulefa, even if they both would die early.
The existance of multiple knives in other worlds.
Lodestone resonators.

Just to name a few.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 9:31 pm
by Gabe
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 9:38 pm
by eloquent
How is that a loophole? Or am I missing something big?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 11:46 pm
by Gabe
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 9:35 am
by Gabe
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 5:42 pm
by Will
Yes

AySz88 wrote:Of course, have both of them staying in the world of the mulefa, even if they both would die early.
The existance of multiple knives in other worlds.
Lodestone resonators.

Just to name a few.


The first one isn't a loophole at all, they'd both die!
The second one isn't either, they'd still have to cut holes, leak Dust and create Spectres like the normal knife.
And they wouldn't really be together with Lodestone Resonators.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 5:57 pm
by AySz88
Well, at the very least, more knives would mean a longer HDM. :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 6:18 pm
by Isobel
Has anyone found a loophole where they don't die, they don't cause the Dust to keep leaking, and they actually get to be together, not just talk to each other? Everything I could think of involved one of these. :?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 6:58 pm
by Pyr
remember the natural windows the angels talked about? Will asked if those were safe, and the angel said yes, but well close them cause if you think theyre there youll spend the rest of your life looking for them. why didnt she tell them where they were, not close them up, and let Will and Lyra use them? it all works...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 7:17 pm
by Isobel
Well, that would work if the windows were left open, but the angels most likely did end up closing them, didn't they?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 8:32 pm
by Will
The angels never actually say that Dust doesn't leak through those windows, that's just Will's theory. And they shouldn't be together!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 9:33 pm
by eloquent
I don't see why the fact that they were natural would make them any less damaging - dust would still leak into the abyss no matter how they had been opened.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 9:54 pm
by Will
Will thought that if they've always been there, they can't have caused that much damage or leaked Dust because conciousness is still here.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 10:33 pm
by AySz88
Uh...where exactly is the part about natural windows?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2003 1:28 am
by Daniel
i think Xaphania says it when she's talking to L&W near the end.